Blastoise VMAX, Venusaur VMAX, and More Revealed! (2025)

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• Blastoise VMAX, Venusaur VMAX, and More Revealed!

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The Boss' Orders (Lysandre) doesn't have the "E" marker so that means Boss' Orders only last until Sept. 2022. Other cards revealed today are the First Block "E" cards.

• Venusaur V/Vmax - can be used in any deck. Since the first atk costs CC. You can whack it on a Welder deck to deal Grass weakness. Or in a Water deck to deal Grass weakness. 30x just seems weak to me. Oh, I forgot it says Grass. So we're stuck on using a Stage 2 to accel energy, without mentioning Welder weakness. 3/3-4
• Blastoise V/Vmax - I kinda like this card. Its a hard-hitting one. 3/4
• Celebi - I dunno if it will be good in the future, but getting the energy you need for setting up turn 1 going 2nd on something like Volcanion is really really good. 4
• Manaphy - Both this and Celebi have 1 RC so U-Turn Board. This one searches Pokemon you need in the early game especially on something like a Spiritomb in which it needs Spiritomb and Jynx and Jirachi for setting up. 4
• Boss' Orders (Lysandre) - Epic card. Almost 4-of, doesn't have the E marker

o7yourdesires said:

Yakingu, you can’t use your old lysanders as the card is Boss’s Orders (Lysander) and not Lysander it’s a completely different name

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And you cannot play both 4 Lysandre and 4 Boss's Orders, even though they have a completely different name. Lysandre follows the "Boss's Orders" rules, even though he's not a Boss's Orders himself. It's also curious that they've picked him, instead of any other Boss. We don't even know what happens when they'll print "Boss's Order (Guzma)" in the future. Will Boss's Order (Giovanni) become legal again, or will they be scummy and force you to rebuy a set of identical cards? I assume the latter, and I would assume Lysandre isn't going to become legal. It would be doubly-scummy, since they have no problem reprinting Skyla, but they won't reprint the Supporter everyone needs, making it blatantly obvious it's a cashgrab. I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt though.

You gotta love the jarring difference in mindsets between the Japanese Pokemon Company with the products that they release and how international consumers and sellers value the products that we get. (This isn't yet another Charizard rant, just a comparison.) In the US: "CHARIZARD VMAX IS TOTALLY WORTH $100!!!" Japan: "Hey, so here's three full, 60-card decks featuring the Kanto starter V's and VMAX's--including Charizard VMAX, four promo cards, and some materials for playing the game. $50." It's very silly...

Also, I'm loving the Celebi and Manaphy cards! They could be very useful, and of course, they have great artwork too.

Asrialys said:

Lysandre sort of gets a reprint, but you won't be able to use your old ones...

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